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		<title>By: Manny Pelaez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manny Pelaez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other thing...and this is where I take issue with your choice of words.

&quot;There is no doubt that if President-elect Obama gets the right people on the bench we will have a much more activist court.  It will  drive the Federalists crazy.&quot;

You are right, the Federalists will be driven crazy. However, it won&#039;t be because the court will become more activist, but because they will *perceive* it to be more activist. I&#039;m sure you don&#039;t recall, but there were plenty of folks that poo-pooed Brown vs. Board of Education as judicial activism.  Or in the way that most people today (except hard core Federalists) would ageree that the bastards on the &quot;strict-constructionist&quot; Waite Court exhibited their own special brand of activism when they decided that the Civil Rights Act of 1875 was unconstitutional. 

The point is that Courts are obligated to *interpret* law, not just uphold it. If all the founding fathers wanted was a body of rubber stampers then they wouldn&#039;t have gone through the trouble of creating a Supreme Court.  The straw-man that is the &quot;activist judges&quot; argument is really a cry for today&#039;s courts to stop applying common law and to just read statutes as they are handed to them by the legislators. Federalists get annoyed when courts decide cases by taking in to account inconvenient things like facts, precendents, constitutional drafters&#039; intent, ethics, etc. I lament the sloganism of calling courts with whom you disagree &quot;activists&quot;. I didn&#039;t think that, of all people, you would be flying the &quot;activist judges&quot; flag.

I think it is sad that so called &quot;conservatives&quot; are all too happy to let blow hards on TV smear any judges with whom they disagrees an undemocratic radicals. Instead of conducting intellectualy honest analysis of judicial reasoning they simply dismiss the decisions they don&#039;t like as &quot;judicial activism&quot; or &quot;legislating from the bench&quot;, a favorite catchphrase that really doesn&#039;t mean anything. It is even more sad to find thoughful conservatives doing the same thing.

I wish the Federalists and others on the right would dispense with their feigned legal purity and be honest regarding their beef with the courts. There are plenty of conscientious conservative and liberal lawyers and scholars with very different ideas of justice and social utility, but most of them agree that this &quot;judicial activism&quot; cannard does nothing to protect the consititution and the separation of powers.  

Instead of bemoaning so called &quot;activist courts&quot; we ought to be insisting that that judges decisions be clear, rational, intellectually honest, transparent to citizens, and persuasive to those who are trained to evaluate legal decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thing&#8230;and this is where I take issue with your choice of words.</p>
<p>&#8220;There is no doubt that if President-elect Obama gets the right people on the bench we will have a much more activist court.  It will  drive the Federalists crazy.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are right, the Federalists will be driven crazy. However, it won&#8217;t be because the court will become more activist, but because they will *perceive* it to be more activist. I&#8217;m sure you don&#8217;t recall, but there were plenty of folks that poo-pooed Brown vs. Board of Education as judicial activism.  Or in the way that most people today (except hard core Federalists) would ageree that the bastards on the &#8220;strict-constructionist&#8221; Waite Court exhibited their own special brand of activism when they decided that the Civil Rights Act of 1875 was unconstitutional. </p>
<p>The point is that Courts are obligated to *interpret* law, not just uphold it. If all the founding fathers wanted was a body of rubber stampers then they wouldn&#8217;t have gone through the trouble of creating a Supreme Court.  The straw-man that is the &#8220;activist judges&#8221; argument is really a cry for today&#8217;s courts to stop applying common law and to just read statutes as they are handed to them by the legislators. Federalists get annoyed when courts decide cases by taking in to account inconvenient things like facts, precendents, constitutional drafters&#8217; intent, ethics, etc. I lament the sloganism of calling courts with whom you disagree &#8220;activists&#8221;. I didn&#8217;t think that, of all people, you would be flying the &#8220;activist judges&#8221; flag.</p>
<p>I think it is sad that so called &#8220;conservatives&#8221; are all too happy to let blow hards on TV smear any judges with whom they disagrees an undemocratic radicals. Instead of conducting intellectualy honest analysis of judicial reasoning they simply dismiss the decisions they don&#8217;t like as &#8220;judicial activism&#8221; or &#8220;legislating from the bench&#8221;, a favorite catchphrase that really doesn&#8217;t mean anything. It is even more sad to find thoughful conservatives doing the same thing.</p>
<p>I wish the Federalists and others on the right would dispense with their feigned legal purity and be honest regarding their beef with the courts. There are plenty of conscientious conservative and liberal lawyers and scholars with very different ideas of justice and social utility, but most of them agree that this &#8220;judicial activism&#8221; cannard does nothing to protect the consititution and the separation of powers.  </p>
<p>Instead of bemoaning so called &#8220;activist courts&#8221; we ought to be insisting that that judges decisions be clear, rational, intellectually honest, transparent to citizens, and persuasive to those who are trained to evaluate legal decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Manny Pelaez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manny Pelaez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too many issues on which to comment. The Supreme Court effectively overturned Tinker v Des Moines, a very well thought out decision, in which it held that &quot;students do not shed their constitutional rights when they enter the schoolhouse door.&quot;  The Court held that speech could only be prohibited by school administrators if they could show that it would cause a substantial disruption of the school&#039;s educational mission.    

I&#039;m with you, Brian. The Court is wrong in that holding up this sign (was conduct that could be categorized as “promoting drug use” and that it disrupts the educational mission. What if the student had been in debate class arguing for the legalization of drugs or prostitution? (I know it would be judged on a case-by-case basis, but the examples are not to far apart from the facts in this case).

Free speech doesn&#039;t have to be interesting or profound to be protected. It enjoyes protection when it is offensive, heretical, blasphemy, and &quot;sophmoric&quot;. This was the wrong decision for free speech rights.  I&#039;m sad it happened because of a dumb sign that isn&#039;t too different from the stupid t-shirts that you can find at any high school in the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many issues on which to comment. The Supreme Court effectively overturned Tinker v Des Moines, a very well thought out decision, in which it held that &#8220;students do not shed their constitutional rights when they enter the schoolhouse door.&#8221;  The Court held that speech could only be prohibited by school administrators if they could show that it would cause a substantial disruption of the school&#8217;s educational mission.    </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you, Brian. The Court is wrong in that holding up this sign (was conduct that could be categorized as “promoting drug use” and that it disrupts the educational mission. What if the student had been in debate class arguing for the legalization of drugs or prostitution? (I know it would be judged on a case-by-case basis, but the examples are not to far apart from the facts in this case).</p>
<p>Free speech doesn&#8217;t have to be interesting or profound to be protected. It enjoyes protection when it is offensive, heretical, blasphemy, and &#8220;sophmoric&#8221;. This was the wrong decision for free speech rights.  I&#8217;m sad it happened because of a dumb sign that isn&#8217;t too different from the stupid t-shirts that you can find at any high school in the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my tongue was planted firmly in my cheek . However we will never be able to coexist peacefully on this tiny rock until the world grows out of the superstitious crutch called religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my tongue was planted firmly in my cheek . However we will never be able to coexist peacefully on this tiny rock until the world grows out of the superstitious crutch called religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cuban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cuban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well we certainly know where you stand on separation of church and state......  there is no state, only church....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well we certainly know where you stand on separation of church and state&#8230;&#8230;  there is no state, only church&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WONDERFUL achievement for 1st amendment rights. However it also shows what an immature society is founded on aka smoke and mirrors. BLACK TAR HEROIN for the Flying Spaghetti Monster &quot; is now on the table . AND SHOULD BE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WONDERFUL achievement for 1st amendment rights. However it also shows what an immature society is founded on aka smoke and mirrors. BLACK TAR HEROIN for the Flying Spaghetti Monster &#8221; is now on the table . AND SHOULD BE</p>
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		<title>By: Disgusted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disgusted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so wrong! It&#039;s blaspheme. And as far as the lawsuit- that&#039;s b.s. I know many people who rights are violated worse than that and they don&#039;t get hardly any money if anything at all. Joseph Frederick is wrong for this! Let me guess- he&#039;s probably some rich kid who knew the right attorneys to get him through this lawsuit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so wrong! It&#8217;s blaspheme. And as far as the lawsuit- that&#8217;s b.s. I know many people who rights are violated worse than that and they don&#8217;t get hardly any money if anything at all. Joseph Frederick is wrong for this! Let me guess- he&#8217;s probably some rich kid who knew the right attorneys to get him through this lawsuit?</p>
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