Loose Change Or Loose Nuts?

The email exchange between Mark Cuban and SEC attorney Jeffrey Norris has given renewed attention to the 9-11 conspiracy film “Loose Change“   While he goes off on some bizarre tangents, the gist of the email exchange beginning in March 2007 was Norris accusing Mark of being “unpatriotic” in that Cuban’s Magnolia Pictures was considering picking up the film for distribution. (They ultimately chose not to distribute the film)    What is “Loose Change”?

Loose Change is a video that examines the attacks of September 11.  There are now several revised versions presented in documentary form.  All three versions can be found all over YouTube.  The basic premise of the 3 versions is that the September 11, 2001 attacks were planned and conducted within the United States Government.  In trying to make that point, the film focuses on anomalies and discrepancies in film footage, interviews etc etc.

What was Mark’s involvement with Loose Change?  Mark has a stake in a media distribution company called Magnolia Pictures. In early 2007 it was publicized that Magnolia was considering obtaining the distribution rights for Loose Change. That is when the media backlash began.  I am not going to try to summarize Mark’s reasoning in considering distribution or in deciding not to. There is content with regards to his views and public sentiment all over the internet.   Here is an interview with Bill “O’Reilly who made the basically the same accusations against Mark with regards to the movie Redacted

Where do I stand?  I have never seen Loose Change.  I have no desire to.  To me the entire premise is ludicrous. How can I pass judgment on a movie I have never seen?  How many people reading this passed judgment on “Redacted” and Mark Cuban based on Bill O”Reilly’s “Talking Points” but never saw the movie. That is how consumer movie viewing decisions are made. They are made by word of mouth.  Enough said there.  Unless people are agreeing to rob a bank or get rid of someone’s spouse for the insurance money, I am skeptical in the extreme of conspiracy theories.  While I am not saying they never happens re Watergate, I believe that in general, government conspiracies theories are coping tools for those looking for explanations of all that is wrong with the human condition.  When all worldly logical explanations fail, blame the government.   I have also never seen Redacted.  I found the plot of U.S. soldiers raping and pillaging in Iraq distasteful while the conflict was ongoing.  I certainly did not feel that way when I watched Brian Depalma’s similar and much more successful movie, Casualties Of War.  Casualties, starring Michael J. Fox,  dramatized the true story of a group of American soldiers kidnapping and raping a Vietnamese girl while on patrol. Why didn’t we all scream about that? (Some Vietnam Vets may have)  I believe it is because when our only context for an event is historical, it breeds indifference, not emotion.

I support any artist’s right to make such films. I supports any distributor’s right to distribute such films without limitation unless it would violate the law to do so(child pornography).  I support my right and your right to be offended, boycott and encourage others to boycott content we disagree with.  I support the First Amendment.  My views can best be characterized by the following exchange I had with one of my Facebook friends.   I have redacted his name to protect his privacy.

Brian’s Facbook Friend is disgusted by the SEC’s ridiculous waste of time and money trying to unjustly get Mark Cuban. I don’t agree with Mark’s 9-11 movie, but this is power abuse. 10:15am

- 9 Comments

Brian Cuban at 10:16am November 22
It was not Mark’s 9-11 movie, Magnolia was simply considering distributing it. He had nothing to do with its production… :o )

Brian’s Facebook Friend at 12:26pm November 22
Brian, I dont agree with the distribution of that absolute “bull—-” movie. No one in America should agree to the distribution of that trash. I still however agree with alot of Mark’s positions on various matters and admire his drive. The Movie distribution thing is a HUGE MISTAKE though. That does not change my total defense on Mark on this SEC deal. He is not guilty of Insider Trading and will be vindicated in my estimation.

Brian Cuban at 12:51pm November 22
I am right there with you on your right to voice your disapproval, boycott and encourage others to disapprove and boycott film, books, art and all media content that you disagree with or find personally offensive. I am right there with Mark, other distributors, and artists of all disciplines to create and distribute content without fear of censorship. Content that may be unpopular or even offensive to segments of the public. I love this country! :o )

Brian’s Facebook Friend at 1:07pm November 22
Brian, I love this country too. However, the film in question rose to the level of of absolute untruth. Distribution of a film denying the holocaust would be an example of another item that content should not be distributed by any reputable firm. Distributing content that is designed to promote an absolutely untrue portrayal of events does not merit distribution from a credible source. There are definitely limits to what a credible firm should distribute if they want to have any kind of reputation of respect. Otherwise, the firm will be a joke and bring discredit to the firm and decision makers connected to the firm which in this case is Mark. I lend great latitude to distributors and artists to creative concepts. This however is not an issue of creative, unpopular or simply offensive. It is PROPAGANDA (TOTAL LIES) meant to confuse very simple facts. Sometimes mistakes are made, this one is a huge mistake for any reputable firm to distribute this production

Brian’s Facebook Friend at 1:10pm November 22
Brian, with that said I totally defend Mark on the SEC charges. Additionally you guys have done a great job promoting Dallas, advocating rationale business practices and challenging the community in many ways that I salute. I am with you guys 100 percent on your fight for transparency in publicly traded companies and the energy Mark puts into everything he does. On this one movie distribution we will have to agree to disagree on though.

Brian Cuban at 1:19pm November 22
My response is so what. People have the right in this country to make and distribute crappy films, propaganda, confuse facts, distort facts etc  as long to do so does not violate applicable laws. We as consumers can choose not to see crappy propaganda films that are untrue. I doubt a film trying to legitimize holocaust denial would get distribution but if it did, I would not see it, I might even show up with a sign boycotting it. I however would not stomp on the Constitution by arguing they did not have a right to make it or get distribution for it. Holocaust denial as offensive as I find it, is not illegal in this country. And there are limits on what can be distributed. Those limits are outlined in Supreme Court cases such as child pornography.  Ironically it’s people wanting to censor and stomp on the 1st amendment that give these films more attention than they would otherwise get.

Brian’s Facebook Friend at 1:25pm November 22
Brian, right to distribution is not my point. My point is legitimate reputation. If a firm wants to earn reputation, then judgment has to be demonstrated. That is my only point.

Brian Cuban at 1:29pm November 22
I agree-that’s a business decision. It may be why Magnolia decided not to distribute it. You can see you hit one of my “hot buttons” Its not about Mark or the movie, I have never even seen Loose Change or Redacted. why? Because I found Redacted offensive and the premise of Loose Change was just plain stupid.

Brian’s Facebook Friend at 1:31pm November 22
That is good to hear then. Good judgment dictated rejection.

If you want to limit the First Amendment, start filing lawsuits to stop distribution of every movie that offends your your sensibilities. You have that right.  See how far that gets you.  Just ask the attorneys for  Jerry Falwell and Larry Flynt. They will set you straight.  If you want to argue for suppression of free speech you can also give  Jeffrey Norris a call.  Just know you will get  an earful on any other topic you don’t care about.

LOOSE CHANGE

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2 Comments For This Post

  1. Deadly Furby Says:

    This is a non-story to the educated.

  2. Ron Paul Says:

    Watch the movie

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